Has your vision for what (di)vision is, or what it could be changed in the last four years?
Nanna: Yes and no. I think our journey started from a somewhat “young” and naive point of view. We wanted to disrupt the industry and show the world, that creating from what already is (tablecloths, second-hand clothes, parachutes, etc.) has to be an option in 2018. Simon and I had minimal experience building a brand, and zero in managing production. Back then, everything we did was a lot more hands-on, as we did all the upcycling (and everything else) ourselves. I think when everything is done on a small scale like that, it’s easier to dream of change. As we’ve been growing over the past years I think our vision has changed as we have learned that it’s not a walk in the park to change the industry.
Today we are working with a lot more commercial ways of producing clothes and we have learned that we don’t necessarily need to upcycle our way through the industry to make a change. Change is shown in how we do the things we do, it’s in our behavior and it’s in our community.